Would someone explain to me fv etiquette?
Ok, had a confrontation this evening with a dark elf (Laryndra) in fv. I'm trying to figure out what happened, just can't do it.
I'm hunting and I see a taurv, almost a full screen away. I start heading towards it, but haven't started shooting at it yet. (Why? You'll see in a sec.) Out of the blue, this unpoly'd de, Laryndra, who is farther away from the taurv than I am, comes flying by me and starts whacking it.
So I make a comment out loud, "not very nice" and a sad face, and head off. She whisses me back something along the lines of, "you hadn't hit it yet." So I respond, "No, but I was CLEARLY moving towards it and closer to it than you were." She in turn responds, "Then why did I hit it first?" My reply: "Lol maybe because you're a de on moving accel and I'm an elf?!?" To which her reply is, "YOU HAVE A BOW."
Ok. So what's going on here? I'll tell you...one thing I have learned as an elf in fv is it is VERY easy to "mop steal" without even intending to. In other words, if I see a mop on the very edge of my screen and immediately shoot, then often as I get closer I see there was a knight, or de, whatever, just a few cells away from that mop already-but on the "other side" of it (in other words, off-screen from me). I always feel bad when I do that, because I know it has got to be frustrating for melee chars when bow users do that.
So I have made it a point when hunting fv, at least when it is crowded, to intentionally NOT shoot a mop immediately. Instead, I walk towards it, confirm that there is no melee char just a few cells away before I go shooting at it.
In other words, I AM TRYING TO BE NICE! I AM TRYING TO BE ESPECIALLY CONSIDERATE OF MELEE CHARACTERS.
Anyways, back to Laryndra, in light of what she said, I replied with a, "So next time I see a mop and you are closer but haven't hit it yet, you're telling me I should shoot it?" To which this is her reply.
So...I don't get it. On one hand her earlier comment seems to indicate that, as a bow user, I should shoot at things immediately. Yet this comment right above also says, if I do that, she will "end" me. So which is it? You can't have your cake and eat it too, honey, you gotta decide. If every mop is free until someone hits it, then even if I see you chase a mop halfway across the screen, as long as I pluck it with an arrow 1 cell before you get there, it's mine not yours, and you have no reason to want to "end" me when I say I am going to do that to you. Whereas if there IS an etiquette that says when a player is CLEARLY moving towards a particular mop, and they are the closest one to it, then it is essentially theirs...then Laryndra, you were clearly out of line tonight. In essence, you're a mop thief. (Or at least you were to me in this instance.)
Anyways, what do you all think? What is the etiquette here? Please respond in my comments here and let me know which one of us was out of line. If it was me, fine, I'll accept that, but then someone explain to me exactly what the rules of etiquette are so that I can take advantge of them as well.
P.S. - It's always a sign of someone's personal integrity and character when they feel the need to respond to a disagreement by threatening the other person.
Ok, enough of that rant.
In other news, was doing a little low-key hunting in dv and ran across a huge fight in progress. Someone had actually Area-of-Silenced while I was there; it was the first time I had experienced that spell, it was kinda neat (and annoying at the same time.) Despite the numbers of people, only 2 or 3 were ever fighting at one time, mostly it was a lot of people standing around trying to look intimidating. lol.
Very boring day for drops, not much of note at all.
Really didn't have much time to play today, actually, which accounts for the lack of drops as well as a minimal experience gain. Still, got my bare minimum half percent, so guess I can't complain.
That's it for me. Busy week ahead, so things might slow down some, at least until the event this weekend. Cya all soon!
I'm hunting and I see a taurv, almost a full screen away. I start heading towards it, but haven't started shooting at it yet. (Why? You'll see in a sec.) Out of the blue, this unpoly'd de, Laryndra, who is farther away from the taurv than I am, comes flying by me and starts whacking it.
So I make a comment out loud, "not very nice" and a sad face, and head off. She whisses me back something along the lines of, "you hadn't hit it yet." So I respond, "No, but I was CLEARLY moving towards it and closer to it than you were." She in turn responds, "Then why did I hit it first?" My reply: "Lol maybe because you're a de on moving accel and I'm an elf?!?" To which her reply is, "YOU HAVE A BOW."
Ok. So what's going on here? I'll tell you...one thing I have learned as an elf in fv is it is VERY easy to "mop steal" without even intending to. In other words, if I see a mop on the very edge of my screen and immediately shoot, then often as I get closer I see there was a knight, or de, whatever, just a few cells away from that mop already-but on the "other side" of it (in other words, off-screen from me). I always feel bad when I do that, because I know it has got to be frustrating for melee chars when bow users do that.
So I have made it a point when hunting fv, at least when it is crowded, to intentionally NOT shoot a mop immediately. Instead, I walk towards it, confirm that there is no melee char just a few cells away before I go shooting at it.
In other words, I AM TRYING TO BE NICE! I AM TRYING TO BE ESPECIALLY CONSIDERATE OF MELEE CHARACTERS.
Anyways, back to Laryndra, in light of what she said, I replied with a, "So next time I see a mop and you are closer but haven't hit it yet, you're telling me I should shoot it?" To which this is her reply.
So...I don't get it. On one hand her earlier comment seems to indicate that, as a bow user, I should shoot at things immediately. Yet this comment right above also says, if I do that, she will "end" me. So which is it? You can't have your cake and eat it too, honey, you gotta decide. If every mop is free until someone hits it, then even if I see you chase a mop halfway across the screen, as long as I pluck it with an arrow 1 cell before you get there, it's mine not yours, and you have no reason to want to "end" me when I say I am going to do that to you. Whereas if there IS an etiquette that says when a player is CLEARLY moving towards a particular mop, and they are the closest one to it, then it is essentially theirs...then Laryndra, you were clearly out of line tonight. In essence, you're a mop thief. (Or at least you were to me in this instance.)
Anyways, what do you all think? What is the etiquette here? Please respond in my comments here and let me know which one of us was out of line. If it was me, fine, I'll accept that, but then someone explain to me exactly what the rules of etiquette are so that I can take advantge of them as well.
P.S. - It's always a sign of someone's personal integrity and character when they feel the need to respond to a disagreement by threatening the other person.
Ok, enough of that rant.
In other news, was doing a little low-key hunting in dv and ran across a huge fight in progress. Someone had actually Area-of-Silenced while I was there; it was the first time I had experienced that spell, it was kinda neat (and annoying at the same time.) Despite the numbers of people, only 2 or 3 were ever fighting at one time, mostly it was a lot of people standing around trying to look intimidating. lol.
Very boring day for drops, not much of note at all.
Really didn't have much time to play today, actually, which accounts for the lack of drops as well as a minimal experience gain. Still, got my bare minimum half percent, so guess I can't complain.
That's it for me. Busy week ahead, so things might slow down some, at least until the event this weekend. Cya all soon!
posted by Finarfin at 12:57 AM
6 Comments:
I'm in school right now, so I'll keep this short.
Just shoot at the monster.
I always shoot at monsters at the edge of my screen no matter what. Most of the time, people won't say anything, they'll just keep walking away. Melee characters kill monsters very fast anyways, so you don't have to worry about them leveling slower than you just because you took one monster away from them.
-AceVentura
I agree. Think of it this way, if it's on your screen, and you don't see anyone else going for it, then it's fair game. Maybe there is someone just on the other side of the mop who's going for it, but again, if you can't see them, they can't see you, and because neither one of you could see one another, they'll know you weren't purposefully taking it from them. It's no different than an ice dagger that flies on screen to tag a mop you was about to hit. You deal with it and move on.
Eh, and as for that de, that person was just trying to act tough in the absence of an intelligent response.
-ennui
Generally I go by the 'if they mops "SEES" you first then it'll head toward you (assuming you're not in poly or they are aggressive to poly such as a Tauv) and then it's yours, if it doesn't head towards you then it's someone elses. Just hunt unpolied, they'll all come to you and be yours :P
Generally if I'm in FV, and if I use a bow (rarely), I'll hit a mop if I see it unless someone is already hitting it. I know it makes you feel bad when something is on the edge of the screen and you hit it, only to see a knight or something walk away from it afterwards, but hey, they have brave speed for a reason. They also have the same option of using a bow (which they don't take advantage of).
Now what's worse is when you're hitting an archer, and another archer starts hitting you... and someone comes along and starts whacking the second archer claiming it isn't your mop because you haven't hit it... -_-'
Jerks are the reason I don't hunt FV. When I play I want to play, not fight over things in a game.
One final thing, nothing of great importance, but just figured you should know. That de is played by a guy. Unless it has changed users.
Good luck. =)
I've spent the better part of a year in Fv and I've seen everything your talking about from both ends. I've been there with my knight and i'm just ready to tag something and from off the screen a coc comes in followed by skel fighters. I've never gotten used to that but I just move away and look for another mop. Maybe half the time i'll get a SRY or something. I just figure there is usually another mop just a screen away and press on. With my elf, I just take a shot. If the mop moves towards me then I have tagged 1st and it is mine. If the mop doesn't move towards me, I will stop shooting and move closer to see who tagged 1st then I will say sry. Believe it or not, I have found if you have trouble with someone takin your mops it never helps to get upset with them. They always get defensive no matter if they were in the wrong or not. I will usually buff them with b-wep or skin and they will remember you next time they see you and will not bother you.
Duh, of course she, the de had condradicted herself, i mean I am a elf as well and yes i know how hard it is to get mops on the fact that you may "unintentionally" taken it from someone else. But in this sense, yes it was her fault for she had clearly seen you walk towards it and if she was SMART, she would have known you were going to hit it anyways so she stole the mop ='(...Anyways you seem like a cool elf and nice blog ^_^! ttyl see u in game maybezz
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